Episode 431: Was T. rex as smart as a baboon? Plus Evan Johnson-Ransom and Julius Csotonyi join us to discuss their new massive book titled Dinosaur World: Over 1,200 Amazing Dinosaurs, Famous Fossils, and the Latest Discoveries from the Prehistoric Era
News:
- A new study claims that theropods were as intelligent as primates (but not everyone agrees) source
- A single Allosaurus had 10 pathologies source
- An ornithomimosaur was injured via blunt force trauma to its foot source
Interview:
Julius and Evan join to talk about their new book. Evan Johnson-Ransom is a PhD student at the University of Chicago a studying the functional morphology and feeding behavior of dinosaurs. Julius Csotonyi is a talented paleoartist who has created life-sized dinosaur murals for many museums and also illustrated the new book Dinosaur World which Evan wrote.
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The dinosaur of the day: Lurdusaurus
- Iguanodont that lived in the Early Cretaceous in what is now Niger (Elrhaz Formation)
- Looked similar to Iguanodon, but bigger
- So massive, probably quadrupedal
- Estimated to be about 23 to 30 ft (7 to 9 m) long and about 6.5 ft (2 m) tall when walking on all fours, but its stomach would only be a little over 2 ft (70 cm) above the ground (based on the length of the ribs)
- Weighed about 5.5 tonnes
- In 2016, Gregory Paul suggested Lurdusaurus was about 23 ft (7 m) long and weighed 2.5 tonnes
- In 2005, You Hailu and others said Lurdusaurus was classified in a group “distinguished by their massively-constructed body forms”
- Average adult hadrosaurids are 7 to 12 m long and 3000 kg
- Taquet and Russell, who officially named Lurdusaurus, described Lurdusaurus as ponderous (very heavy)
- Said that in a squat posture Lurdusaurus “must have somewhat resembled ankylosaurs”
- However, also said its small skull, circular chest, powerful forelimbs and claws, and other elements “probably even more strikingly recalled the form of giant ground sloths”
- Not a typical iguanotontid
- A large iguanodont, so large it walked on four legs
- Had a relatively small skull, long neck, massive forelimbs and thumb spikes, bulky body, relatively short tail and hindlimbs
- Estimated that the length of the skull of the holotype was about 2.9 ft (83.3 cm) long
- Had a beak (back of the skull was about 30 cm wide and front was 20 cm, so did not have a duck-like bill)
- Had between 12 and 14 neck vertebrae, and its neck estimated to be 5.3 ft (1.6 m) long
- Tail about 13 ft (4 m) long
- Had large, stout limbs
- Forelimbs are about 60% the size of the hindlimbs
- Had a short, powerful pelvis, somewhat similar to ceratopsians
- Femur has features like ceratopsians and sauropods
- Wrist bones were fused into a block
- Had a large thumb spike
- Taquet and Russell described the wrist and thumb claw as “reminiscent of a mace-and-chain”
- Probably used its thumb spike for defense
- Taquet and Russell found that the bones in the foot were reduced, so the metatarsals (bones leading up to the toes) “lost contact with each other, and that a fleshy pad must have supported most of the weight borne by the foot”
- In 2007 Tom Holtz suggested Lurdusaurus acted like a hippo and was semi-aquatic (only suggested though, no studies around this)
- Like a hippo, was stocky and usually moved slow but could move fast when needed
- Could be why there’s paleoart of Lurdusaurus swimming (with only the head above water)
- Type species is Lurdusaurus arenatus
- Fossils found in 1965 by Philippe Taquet
- Holotype is a nearly complete adult specimen, with a fragmentary skull
- Holotype only missing part of the skull, the sacrum, and a lot of the foot
- Found tooth punctures around the pubic bones, that were partly re-healed
- Taquet said it was large and in 1976 in a brief description said it should probably be its own genus
- In 1988 Souad Chabli described the specimen for her thesis and named it “Gravisaurus tenerensis” but her thesis was not published
- Formally named in 1999 by Taquet and Dale Russell
- Also referred a fragment of a dentary (lower jaw) and right coracoid (part of the shoulder) to Lurdusaurus
- Genus name means “heavy lizard”
- Species name means “sandy” and refers to the fossils being found in a desert
- Lived in a tropical forest
- Other dinosaurs that lived around the same time and place include iguanodonts Elrhazosaurus and Ouranosaurus, the sauropod Nigersaurus, titanosaurs, the spinosaurid Suchomimus, the carcharodontosaurid Eocarcharia, the abelisaurid Kryptops, and noasaurids
- Other animals that lived around the same time and place include crocodylomorphs and pterosaurs
Fun Fact:
Stegosaurus did not have a second brain at the base of its tail—but that was a real hypothesis proposed by O.C. Marsh.
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